Very true, the last bit

Dec 26, 2017
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Very true, the last bit: “It’s no excuse, but when I arrived in the restaurant business in the early ’70s, it was the waning days of the sexual revolution. It was in Provincetown, Massachusetts, which was a largely gay, very sexually free, libertine-esque environment. I was coming out of a mostly women’s university where men were a tiny minority. I found myself in an environment where men and women spoke—gay men, gay women, straight men, straight women—we all spoke, people were speaking around me, mostly older, more experienced, in an incredibly frank way, usually self-deprecating way, about their sex lives. What they liked, what they didn’t like. How they fucked up. How they’re failures. I found this very liberating and refreshing that people could talk to themselves in this way. Talk to each other in this way.
It seemed honest and free of the kind of hypocrisy and stupidity that I’d seen surrounding sex growing up. But of course, as in any seemingly utopian environment, whether it’s like San Francisco in the ’60s or anyplace else, the meatheads arrive and they see this as a means to be shitheads.”
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Comments
  • God that’s a fantastic quote. Nails the dynamic by which shit gets poisoned perfectly.

    Ed Kazarian December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
    • Yeah. I don’t want to dismiss them, but they’re fragile and there’s all kinds of ways that the dominant culture can reassert itself within them.

      Ed Kazarian December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
    • Utopias, heterotopias-that’s the problem with countercultures, I suppose. Although I do think-contra a certain economistic Marxist perspective-that they have value.

      Anthony Galluzzo December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
    • And, importantly, part of that dynamic is just that the ‘utopian environment’ depends more on ignoring or acting as if certain power dynamics have been suspended than on having actually liquidated them. Thus the meatheads can reassert them whenever they please.

      Ed Kazarian December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
  • Yeah, tho isn’t he the one who valorizes a working class background, as if they are some exotic species he needs to make legible to his fellow bougies?

    Kelley Howell December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
    • tbh, those Reagan babies like to explain the working class to working people even more.

      I hate generalizing but it seems like a bit of a tic for those guys to see class reflected in manners & appearance rather than material circumstances.

      David Eppish December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
    • Elaborate?

      Davd Nspach December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
  • meathead → shithead

    John Gulick December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
    • Nocomment

      John Gulick December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
    • Nobro?

      Anthony Galluzzo December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply
  • Wow

    Jules Joanne Gleeson December 26, 2017 2:49 am Reply

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